5G is a very different animal than 3G or 4G, where it’s much more complex.
There’s a lot more that it brings to the picture but there’s also a lot more it needs to be out there and installed in the world around us.
And this comes at a time that it’s gonna require a lot of investment, a lot of time, a lot of comprehension by municipalities, but also at a time when this economy is in a pinch When many are asking, are consumers excited enough about 5g in their community?
Now what Shawn Chahine will know he is the CEO of inalsa startup that focuses on rapidly developing the engineering plan to build out 5g in the world around us.
Now that may sound a little bit like inside baseball, but if you think about it so much about making 5g accessible to us or to businesses or whoever wants to use it comes right down to that exact part of the project in a big picture.
How is a 5G deployment different than 4G or even 3G were 5G, we use something called millimetre wave.
So it’s a totally different frequency and I don’t want to get into too much, but the main difference is that range of our antennas are way less than what it was with 4G.
So instead of using those telecom towers, we have to use a lot more antennas on CD infrastructure.
So now instead of building 100 antennas for example, Cover Manhattan you have to build 5 to 20,000 antennas.
That’s the estimate that every metropolitan area needs.
So in my opinion, this is the biggest infrastructure project after the highway system in late 40s and early 50s.
Like we are adding so much and this is going to change the way cities look like.
This is going to change we communicate with China we connect, how roads are built, how land development is going to be Evolve in the next five to ten years.
Most of our work is going to be new 5 to 20,000 range number of what they call small cell sites all over every city.
So now, this may be a stupid question, but who owns and pays for all this infrastructure?
Let’s say for a given small cell I would imagine a carrier does but am I missing something?
Yeah, so some of it is a complicated negotiation process.
Majority of it is paid by your carriers like Verizon and at&t.
But in every city sometimes there is some negotiation versus if they need like Today needs a specific type of light or they want it to look a certain way.
Usually, the carriers pay for the construction but some cities want to maintain whatever Smart City equipment goes in there or lights and like power, fiber and things like that.
So So speaking of power and fiber, tell us what composes a connection basket to a 5G small cell.
The biggest pieces power on fiber.
And power is one of the challenging parts because you have to figure out where is the need.
Clauses source of power for every single site and draw power from there.
And then you have all sorts of equipment in there and you need to get take power to and also you have fiber, which is essentially how you’re transferring data.
And those are the main two components for every single site.
So that sounds like a lot of physical work if you’re in a dense city with a lot of old buildings.
Considering the high number of sites we are trying to build for every single one and it’s not like one solution fits all you have to go through every single one.
Dig bore to draw power on fiber So it’s a lot of work, especially in dense areas.
Now many of us think that cellular technology is just the radio waves that we’re always imagining when we look at the bars we have on our signal and that’s always the persistent image.
But there’s other stuff built into those sites.
And I keep hearing that more and more 5G will move some computing power to the edge, is that some of what’s located at some of these small cell locations also?
To be able to do to have things like cloud computing edge computing, at the location of where antenna is, and that kind of results in what they call Reduce Latency.
So, they speed up the data, it’s transferring much faster now, and we can do a lot more, either on the cloud, or on any space that’s not necessarily localized on a specific piece of hardware.
So each of these small-celled sites is, in a sense, a little bit of a data center.
Now we’ve been talking about all the Volume Volume volumes, so many sites, so many sites, so many sites, what are these things look like?
Because some people aren’t going to be saying, look, all I want to know is do I have to look at all these things in my neighborhood?
What does a small cell look like?
You have two types.
So 4G still had small cells and that was mainly to cover the blind spots.
And I think it was more like a test for 5G when we need to build more.
With 4G, it’s usually a cylinder, and it has a cabinet on the bottom that’s very big and ugly.
But with 5G, everything is kind of more condensed On the antenna side, you have three different boxes that are covering 120 degrees each and everything is up there.
So you don’t have as much equipment down there that you have to hide or you have to conceal.
And it only looks a little better than, what four G’s on software.
Okay, so in your opinion, it’s going to be aesthetically a little less obtrusive.
Usually, you have like a component on the bottom, which includes metre, breaker, and different electrical pieces.
And at top, you would have the 5G antenna, you have the radio on the back of it, these are very, very small.
So, typical 5G antenna would be two and a half feet tall, about a foot and a half wide.
So, You can install it almost anywhere on top of like utility poles light poles sometimes we have our own poles that we design that blend into the city and for I think after a while, either people get used You saw how they look like or it would be very hard to see quite frankly.
So with that in mind, let’s move out to rural areas.
We’ve been envisioning cities in our conversation so far, but one of the big promises of 5G is that it can bring broadband more efficiently to rural areas depending on what spectrum it uses.
I know that’s that can vary a lot.
What’s it like doing rural installs?
Have you guys done many of those?>> on the ruler?
Yeah, you don’t need that much.
You still need much capacity, but you don’t need as much.
So, most of our work there is mostly enhancing the existing infrastructure, so they don’t necessarily use Small cells they use a low band or which is basically a hyped up 4G LTE seven to 10 times faster, more capacity And I think in the beginning that’s enough for rural areas from an economy standpoint because the carriers want to start making money and bringing revenue from what they’re building and this insane amount of investment they are making.
Real 5G is going to take a lot longer unless there’s government spent investment or making regulations easier in those areas.
What does the government need to help them with what part of it is?
Do the the carriers need help with?
Is it actual investment or is it clearing up some regulations?
I think it’s both.
Usually like even when we get out of the city areas in suburbs and places like that we have way less regulations and it’s easier to build there because you have less traffic you have less underground utilities.
But government also like FCC is immersing About $20 billion, which is not enough, just to put that in perspective, AT&T and Verizon are each spending $20 billion a year on their 5g deployments.
So $20 million for rural areas all over the United States.
It’s kind of like a drop in the bucket.
But it helps to decrease for especially a low band where you use the existing infrastructure.
Let’s talk about the safety’s story.
There are plenty of communities out there that have risen up against 5G because they hear millimeter wave.
They hear micro wave they hear high frequency radiation.
Is that settled before it lands in your lap?
Or do you guys feel the pressure of community pushback We absolutely deal with a lot of these concerns or similar concerns people have been WiFi and things like that.
So if we go to suburbs or neighbourhoods where there’s more residential, there are citizens that are concerned.
We have to address those sometimes a lot of the consideration we put in from the engineering standpoint He’s tried to build our network in an area where, even though scientifically a lot of these concerns are not validated, we try to build our network in areas where we are not in front of anybody’s property.
We are not Affecting aesthetically any part of any neighborhood.
So we kind of address some of those concerns
I’ll bet that’s like solving a 10,000 piece puzzle [LAUGH]
Yeah, try to stay out of everybody’s view and yet give them coverage.
[LAUGH] All right.
So what’s the Here we are in this in this very unusual year that nobody saw coming?
Just gut check here.
How has the pace of 5g deployment benefited by COVID-19 in your experience.
Well, I think in a big scale not as much, this is the best time to build a network because everything we do is on the side of the street and we don’t have as much traffic traffic is actually a big problem because we have to block the road and start construction.
But on the other side of it on like smaller scale you have where many municipalities jurisdictions, their offices were closed or they’re trying to figure out how to work remotely.
So that was like a short term effect that I don’t think exists as much.
Overall, this is the best time or this is the best use case where.
Connectivity is more important than ever, and we need that huge amount of bandwidth, 5Gs [UNKNOWN] to be able to work from home.
Once consumers really get an idea that 5G is also a great technology to provision the home.
We all think of it as being mobile, right?
That that will collide happily with this new work and learn from home era.
Perhaps give 5g to the home an unexpected lift.
In two or three years from now everybody would want a 5g antenna in their neighborhood.
And quite frankly, I would rather to connect to the 5g antenna from the health concern than the Wi Fi router in my home.
And I think that would be the big shift of education where people actually prefer something that’s a lot faster and a lot more high quality of connection help some work from home and do all this Amazing things we talk about The Internet of things with a 5G antenna rather than the fiber and other things that have to kinda brought their houses.
Fiber to the curb is just too hard.
I think we’ve kinda seen that trend amongst the companies that were starting it That’s why I’m so excited about 5G to serve the premise, not just to serve the home, I’ve been talking to Sean Chahine.
He’s the CEO of Inalsa.
a startup that specialises in rapidly developing engineering plans to get 5G built out in neighbourhoods around us.